VERY CRITICAL UPDATE: Looks like Olympia Snowe has dropped out and Dems are on their own. What is at stake and how two Jim Demint amendments can stop reconciliation. The clock is ticking. While Joe Wilson is an interesting story, this is the moment when we can drop the hammer on ObamaCare.

Donate to Joe Wilson here.

So Obama can call Republicans liars, call Sarah Palin a liar, and imply the Tea Party Patriots are liars but boo friggin’ who if someone calls a spade a spade. And I don’t recall Obama apologizing, nor for that matter do I recall Democrats apologizing when they booed President Bush during his 2005 State of the Union.

Looks like our thin-skinned leader can now be called hypocrite as well – as if he did not already own the title:

Readers who frequent this website know I am no apologist for the Republican Party but I must question the high dudgeon in which Democrats, the media and even some RINOs have gotten themselves into over the heckling incident during the President’s address to a Joint Session of Congress last night. OK, I will admit, many Americans were offended by Congressman Joe Wilson’s calling President Obama a liar. But another group of Americans was equally offended by the President’s calling Republican Members of Congress liars from the Dias. Besides which, since when have Americans become so persnickety about the manners of politicians who are the very definition of rudeness and boorishness? Has anyone read Mark Twain or Will Rogers lately?

Well, it all set me to thinking, and so I pose a few questions and observations for you dear reader to ponder:

  • What is worse, the President lying to the public before a Joint Session of Congress (The healthcare system is in extremis and requires urgent overhaul; I will not sign a healthcare bill that adds one dime to the deficit; Nothing in my plan will adversely affect your current insurance) or a Member of Congress calling the President a liar in public?
  • What is worse, the President calling Republican Members of Congress liars from the Dias during an address to a Joint Session of Congress or a Republican Member of Congress calling the President a liar from the floor of the House?
  • What is worse, the President abusing the privilege of addressing a Joint Session of Congress, making a partisan playhouse out of the People’s House for his own political theater and using the Members of Congress as stage props for his own drama or a Member of Congress refusing to go along with the travesty and heckling the President from the cheap seats like some Member of the English Parliament?
  • What is worse, the Republican heckler later apologizing for calling out the President after the President first threatened from the Dias of the House to call out Republican Members of Congress for their lies (for which the President has not apologized to anyone), or the former Republican presidential candidate who gave us this President by his pitiful failure as a candidate blushing in the cheap seats demanding that his heckling fellow Republican apologize?

The real question is why didn’t the President exhibit courage and respect for the U.S. Congress and do what British prime ministers do regularly, namely take questions from the floor of the House from Members of the Opposition Party rather than hiding behind the majesty of the People’s House to avoid having to answer questions from average Americans or their representatives? More importantly, why didn’t Republican Members of Congress exhibit courage and respect for the respective bodies in which they serve and insist before turning the Floor of the House over to the President for partisan use that he at least participate in Question Time from the Well of the House during the Joint Session before the departing the Chamber?

Here is a note I sent to the Republican Leadership of both Bodies and the Chairman of the Republican National Committee a week before the Joint-Session fiasco unfolded:

“The President has sought the privilege of addressing the nation on healthcare in a Joint Session of Congress because he wants to speak directly to the American People without having to answer their questions, as he would have to in an unscripted, un-orchestrated town hall meeting. If the Congress extends this courtesy to the President and shields him from direct questioning by the American People, we believe he should be obliged at least to take questions from the People’s representatives.

“Therefore, as a condition of allowing the President to expropriate the People’s House as a playhouse and use the People’s representatives as stage trappings to make a political speech to the nation, Republicans should insist on the right of Members to ask the President unscreened questions from the Well of the House after he addresses the nation before he leaves the House Chamber.

“Specifically, the Speaker of the House and the President Pro Tempore of the Senate and the Minority Leaders of each Body, or their respective designees, should be permitted to ask the President a set number of unscripted and unscreened questions from the Well of the House.

“We do not know the formal process by which the President requests and the Congress grants him permission to address a Joint Session but we presume there is a formal process of some sort. We believe the Republican congressional leadership should insert itself into that process and demand that the President answer questions from the Well of the House. Toward that end, we urge the Republican congressional Leaders to write the Democratic congressional leaders insisting that they obtain agreement from the President to take questions from Members of Congress after his remarks before he is granted permission to address a Joint Session.”

Read the whole thing.

We are all Joe Wilson’s Now.

In other news and opinion:

Unruly moment, manufactured outrage

Carlson: When did the Hopemeister turn bitter?

AP fact-checks Obama speech

Obama’s Lies Matter, Too

Obama accepts apology. Now I’m just waiting for his. Holding my breath, can’t breathe, everything is getting dark! Screw it, I’m not dying for this hypocrite.

HuffPo: Another Glenn Beck target resigns from Team Barry?

Durbin: Don’t expect cap-and-trade this year

I demand an apology

Hey, since Rahm Emanuel can get away with demanding an apology from Rep. Joe Wilson, and House Democrats can get away with demanding Wislon apologize on the House floor (Pelosi has called for House Dems to “move on” from the idea of demanding a House floor apology or censure), I demand an apology from every single Democrat lawmaker who has called opponents of ObamaCare every name in the book over the last couple of months. Hey, it’s all in the interest of NuCivility, so why not?

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17 Responses to “Obama The Liar. Plus, When Bush Was Booed By Dems. Obama Gets Slapped By Ex-Reagan Policy Advisor.”
  1. J. Signorelli says:

    Here Here

  2. Not Quite says:

    Actually, Obama didn’t call anyone a liar, he called their lies what they are: lies. In contrast, Wilson’s claim can be objectively proven false by reading the actual bill. This shouldn’t be so difficult to figure out.

  3. John Q. Public says:

    Really NotQuite? Please tell us exactly where coverage is denied to illegal aliens. You know your claims can be proven false by reading the bill and not BOs talking points but what the hey nothing like being a shill for a liar like BO right? Now that this propaganda failed too what is the next fear tactic or strawman you are going for?

  4. John Q. Public says:

    Just for Not Quite the following is from the Congressional Research Service.

    Under H.R. 3200, all legal permanent residents (LPRs),23 nonimmigrants, and unauthorized aliens who meet the substantial presence test (defined above) would be required to obtain health insurance. Noncitizens meeting the definition of nonresident aliens (e.g., temporary visitors, temporary workers in the United States for less than 183 days in the year) would not be required to obtain health insurance. Notably, the IRC does not contain special rules for individuals who are in the United States without authorization (i.e., illegal or unauthorized aliens). Instead, the IRC treats these individuals in the same manner as other foreign nationals—an unauthorized individual who has been in the United States long enough to qualify under the substantial presence test is classified as a resident alien; otherwise, the individual is classified as a nonresident alien. Thus, it would appear that unauthorized aliens who meet the substantial presence test would be required under H.R. 3200 to have health insurance.

    Too bad Wilson was right about someone being a liar, after all it shouldn’t be too difficult to figure out now should it.

    And now a bonus question for you spinmeisters for Barry’s pathetic administration…..If their so called reform is so great why are congress members and the prez wanting nothing to do with it for themselves and their families? Why is congress exempting themselves and BO wouldn’t commit to putting his own family on it? So it is not good enough for them but it is for us the unwashed masses? I don’t think so.

  5. Kate Jackson, not the angel says:

    I think BO knows that if the single payer systems is instituted and illegal immigrants are not included that the Supreme Court can override that based on federal and supreme court precedents i.e. the overthrowing the the CA elections that banned state benefits to illegal immigrants in CA. So he is, in fact, telling the truth because he knows the Supreme Court will not allow a law where all people in the US are supposed to be covered, but doesn’t cover illegal immigrants.
    So, I guess the president’s has a clear conscious.

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  12. It should be obvious to everyone above the median IQ that Obama is a liar. He lied continuously during the campaign and he has been lying continuously as president. What type of liar he is probably only a psychologist could determine since there are many types. There are pathological liars, cronic liars, habitual liars, professional liars, skillful liars, natural liars, etc. Obama is at least one of these types and his lying is so frequent and severe that he is probably a combination of two or more of these types. And to make it easier for him the mainstream media covers up for him and does’t call him on his lies. I have been a Democrat all my life but after observing him and listening to him during the campaign he bacame the first Democratic candidate I did not vote for. Now, this administration has me convinced to change and I will not vote for any Democratic candidates again.

  13. Alvin Crawford says:

    I believe all politicians massage the truth to benefit their own agendas. Clinton lied, George Bush lied and history will prove what lies Obama is selling to the people. My biggest concern is separating the racism from politics. I was in DC Saturday and watch hundreds of people protesting the president. What I didn’t see in my 20 – 30 minutes of trying to find onstreet parking, was minorities. The people protesting were predominate older white males between 40 – 60. It makes me wonder is the rest of the non-white americans so brainwashed they can’t see thru the bull or are the people protesting my upset about the president’s race and will latch on to any argument to discredit him. My take on this politic circus is both parties should go on national tv and document everything they want to see happen with healthcare. Then people should be allowed to vote on what to keep and what to discard since we will be paying for it for years to come.

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  17. sueeighmy says:

    I disagree on that assessment of Carter, I think he is retarded. Would explain his presidency. I don’t know how Obama keeps up with all the lies he tells, I can’t remember them all , I bet he can’t either. Hence the teleprompter.

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